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Theoretically car seats, crash helmets and cot mattresses are allowed on Freegle Groups; the general feeling on Freegle UK Central is to leave the decision on whether to take a seat/mattress/crash helmet or not to the member who wants it, so leaving the members to decide on whether or not they wish to take the possible risks. However, many of these issues are emotive. If you have strong feelings about the use of any of these items you can chose to not to allow them on your group. You may wish to consider polling your members first.


We believe that furniture or upholstered items used indoor do not need a valid fire label if one person is passing furniture to another.  See page four of [https://webarchive.nationalarchives.gov.uk/20121205104441/http://www.bis.gov.uk/files/file24685.pdf government advice]:
If an item is not illegal then it's OK to allow to be offered or requested on Freegle.  But there are some items that members should be careful about if they are intending to use them for their original purpose, as opposed to upcycling or repurposing. It is up to each group to decide if they want to disallow certain items through their own safety concerns or to leave it to their members to decide on whether or not they wish to take the possible risks.


''In the Department's view, the simple distribution of second-hand furniture by a charity in pursuance of its charitable objectives to needy persons, either free of charge or at a nominal amount only, would be unlikely to constitute a supply in the course of business. On the other hand, shops selling furniture to raise funds for charitable purposes would constitute a business activity and the Regulations will apply to the furniture sold in this case. Individual charities should take legal advice.''
Freegle's disclaimer - https://www.ilovefreegle.org/disclaimer - is clear about the responsibility of Freegle and members.


Also, by limiting the things that are allowed for safety reasons we can be, by implication, suggesting that all other things are safe. Once you start doing that where do you stop?


Tip: one solution is to add a 'mod edit' to posts when you catch them in pending, pointing out the risks of using secondhand car seats, safety helmets, cot mattresses etc.
Here is some information about specific items
* Furniture and upholstered items used indoors:  See page 4 of [https://webarchive.nationalarchives.gov.uk/20121205104441/http://www.bis.gov.uk/files/file24685.pdf government advice]: <br>  ''In the Department's view, the simple distribution of second-hand furniture by a charity in pursuance of its charitable objectives to needy persons, either free of charge or at a nominal amount only, would be unlikely to constitute a supply in the course of business. On the other hand, shops selling furniture to raise funds for charitable purposes would constitute a business activity and the Regulations will apply to the furniture sold in this case. Individual charities should take legal advice.''


You might want to send out the following links to refer people to:
 
* http://www.childcarseats.org.uk/
* Cot mattresses - https://www.nct.org.uk/baby-toddler/sleep/cot-safety-features-sleeping-safely-cot:  <br>''The Lullaby Trust recommends you buy a new cot mattress, or - if using a second-hand mattress - carefully check that it's clean, dry and free from cracks or tears. Your cot mattress should be firm, with no sagging and fit the cot snugly, with no gaps.''
* http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/people/injury/childps/childrestraints/
 
 
* Helmets for motorcycles or bicycles - http://www.worcsregservices.gov.uk/media/439257/139-Selling-second-hand-crash-helmets-visors-and-other-safety-helmets.pdf
 
 
* Car seats and restraints - http://www.childcarseats.org.uk/ and http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/people/injury/childps/childrestraints/
 
 
 
Tip: If a post is in pending, you could add a 'mod edit' pointing out the risks of using some items.




Revision as of 13:26, 22 February 2019

If an item is not illegal then it's OK to allow to be offered or requested on Freegle. But there are some items that members should be careful about if they are intending to use them for their original purpose, as opposed to upcycling or repurposing. It is up to each group to decide if they want to disallow certain items through their own safety concerns or to leave it to their members to decide on whether or not they wish to take the possible risks.

Freegle's disclaimer - https://www.ilovefreegle.org/disclaimer - is clear about the responsibility of Freegle and members.


Here is some information about specific items

  • Furniture and upholstered items used indoors: See page 4 of government advice:
    In the Department's view, the simple distribution of second-hand furniture by a charity in pursuance of its charitable objectives to needy persons, either free of charge or at a nominal amount only, would be unlikely to constitute a supply in the course of business. On the other hand, shops selling furniture to raise funds for charitable purposes would constitute a business activity and the Regulations will apply to the furniture sold in this case. Individual charities should take legal advice.





Tip: If a post is in pending, you could add a 'mod edit' pointing out the risks of using some items.



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